In a recent discussion on the World of Warcraft forums titled “Mythic Plus is going in the Wrong Direction,” players have voiced significant concerns about the current state of Mythic Plus (M+) dungeons. The original poster, Captcalico, shared their frustration after a failed attempt at a +8 Stone-vault key in a pick-up group (PUG). They emphasized that while M+ offers an infinitely scalable challenge for hardcore players, the escalating difficulty has become “unacceptable” for casual gamers. Waiting to be selected for a key and then spending two hours to complete it is seen as disrespectful to players’ time. To address these issues, Captcalico suggested reverting tank nerfs to encourage more tank participation, making healing more accessible by reducing unavoidable group-wide damage, and simplifying boss and add mechanics to reduce the overwhelming number of simultaneous challenges.

In response, Gnr highlighted the increasing complexity of older dungeons being reintroduced in Season 2, questioning the necessity of adding new mechanics to previously well-received content. They argued that while striving to maximize damage, healing, and tanking can be enjoyable, turning every dungeon into a “no-mistakes Olympic dance competition” detracts from the fun.

Adding to the discussion, I, Archangel, expressed strong agreement with the concerns raised about healing. Even as a Discipline Priest, considered an S-tier specialization, I find healing to be “absolutely abysmal.” The combination of weak heals and massive group-wide damage spikes makes the role excessively demanding and unenjoyable. I described the current state of healing as the “worst” it has ever been, emphasizing that it feels “beyond sweaty” and is disrespectful of players’ time.

These sentiments reflect a broader dissatisfaction within the community regarding the increasing difficulty and complexity of M+ dungeons. Many players feel that the current design caters too heavily to high-end players, leaving casual gamers struggling to keep up. The call for adjustments aims to make M+ content more accessible and enjoyable for a wider range of players, ensuring that the challenge remains engaging without becoming overwhelming